Skimo2012

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2012 4:07:34 PM
Infrastructure - ....basic physical and organizational structures and facilities....public-policy discussion was hampered by lack of a precise definition for infrastructure.... If you get rid of the "infrastructure"....just might work...
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remay

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Houston
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2012 7:35:31 AM
"... in some of these places where you’re starting to get infrastructure ..."
key word - SOME
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DrCashFlow

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2012 5:05:51 AM
good luck without the infrastructure
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cupboy

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Salt Lake City
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 8:27:32 PM
Come to think of it, nothing made by Chrysler is useful. Maybe Ford will read this and come up with some ideas.
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cupboy

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Salt Lake City
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 8:26:37 PM
Unfortunately pick up trucks aren't really useful vehicles. If we could get some vans, like the E-250 with CNG, I'd consider one.
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planetmail

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Calgary
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 8:25:42 PM
Sure natural gas looks like a good & cheap alternative, however prices will go up when the supply tightens up and inventories are dry. Just like the prices of the past before supply exceeded demand. At present natural gas producers & inventory storage holders are looking for anything to use up product to boost prices.
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redbeard47229

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 8:19:24 PM
this is not an expensive option conversion has been around for 20 years and not for a lot of money. you can build a vehicle to run on cng and gas at a reasonable price and the consumer has a choice.
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ber5

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 8:18:52 PM
would be a nice alternative for pickup.
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TDIdave

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California
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 8:18:34 PM
Sounds interesting.
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raj_fl

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Trenton
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 8:16:19 PM
must be made feasable
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mlmeng

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 8:15:59 PM
Wonder where is the closest place to refuel?
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Tegger

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 8:13:49 PM
OK
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BrucePen

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 8:13:34 PM
Great news. Now that the corrupt premier has quit and left the sinking ship that is Ontario. Maybe we can get the natural gas infrastructure rebuilt. This was a great program, until the Liberals killed it.
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jad1960

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Gary
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 8:13:28 PM
A little late.
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Quick68

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 8:11:42 PM
The price of natural gas is going up. Chrysler waited too long.
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Mikeyl

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 8:08:03 PM
While I am not planning to upgrade my car or purchase from Dodge, this is a good thing.
Movement in this direction by any of the car manufacturers is a good thing.
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jdc17327

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 8:06:02 PM
great
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swrestler

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 8:03:48 PM
Good For Them, But Where Do You Refill Their Tanks...
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Mustache_33

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 8:00:27 PM
hm
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walkingtall

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 7:59:07 PM
Good luck to find a place to refill them.
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g747

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Mobile
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 7:56:42 PM
We need more stations to accomandate the new LNG vehicles.
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mplato

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Columbia
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 7:48:17 PM
oh my...this could be a good thing
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WhiskersTheCat

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Austin
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 7:47:35 PM
Would make more sense for semi's to use natural gas. I am just not sure if there are enough fueling stations yet.
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Taurus1

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 7:45:37 PM
Interesting!
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danlanman

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 7:42:31 PM
ok
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gerreg

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Nebraska
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 7:40:58 PM
ok
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07skydriver

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 6:58:41 PM
Evade, elude, avoid, Dodge.
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geezrtek

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 4:10:59 PM
CNG is gaining because it's economically beneficial all around. No Gummint help needed.
Article - *** out of 5
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NemoIL

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:46:57 PM
We had natural gas pickups in the 1970's, it is about time they made a came back.
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tutaw

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:46:15 PM
ok
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sprocketsplines

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Washington
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:42:39 PM
The natural gas-powered Ram pickup sounds like a winner especially since it can switch to a reserve tank of gasoline as a back-up.
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Kato51

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:40:59 PM
Good to see. We have enough ng for this.
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trytogetby

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:39:47 PM
Yes I feel it will be hard to find a place to fill up. I'm sure a large company will come up with something there the only ones that have the money.
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JOHNNY95206

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Stockton
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:38:44 PM
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If you like to know how to do this
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knutzAL

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:38:30 PM
Safety should not be this issue here as they have been around for years. Its the usually centralized filling options that will be a factor. Now is they had a removable tank option that would minimize the situation. Two onboard tanks with one removable so you could fill it weekly and still have the second fixed tank to suppliment your system. Just thinking out loud here.
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Kmankeith

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Rhode Island
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:36:16 PM
How safe are they and where do you fill them up?
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katmandue

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:34:18 PM
Good luck finding a place to refill those tanks.
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dpt

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:34:16 PM
Apparently Fiat has some expertise in that line.
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GatorGuy

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Columbia
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:34:13 PM
NG sounds like a good alternative.
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joekool1

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:30:29 PM
just a fiat by a different name
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outlaw329

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Austin
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:30:18 PM
An excellent idea from the chrysler group and starting with the 2500 it will allow us to see what is happening with the mileage.
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ruca2012

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:27:45 PM
good
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GLM4205

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:26:58 PM
Good alternatives.
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firefly09

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:26:06 PM
No thank you. I still ask.............what happens in a wreck?????
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Alfied

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:22:59 PM
Build the infrastructure and it will come.
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ItisAJeepThing

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:22:22 PM
GREAT! Hopefully it catches on and more companies follow with a wide variety of natural gas vehicles. The U.S. is the world's largest producer of natural gas. We should be pursuing the use of abundant, cheap and clean American natural gas in the forms of CNG and LNG as our PRIMARY alternative to all oil based fuels. It will be much better and cheaper than pursuing limited range all electric vehicles.
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traumer

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:19:45 PM
Good idea Fiat/Chrysler, better than a EV.
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Jmac2008

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:19:39 PM
just something else to drive prices up for home heating this winter.
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DR4URRV

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:17:51 PM
the democrats bought them...
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nerde

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Florida
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 3:11:20 PM
Hahah! Good one RoadKing95!
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